Thursday, October 14, 2004

 

Dbate #3: What are folks saying??

Snagged from www.democraticunderground.com

Ceci Connolly: “You know, I gave Sen. Kerry a bit of an edge on substance, an A-, in part because he showed both depth and breadth on so many different issues.” (Fox, 10/14/04)

ABC Poll Who Won? Kerry 42%, Bush 41%, Tie 14%(Party affiliation: Republicans 38, Democrats 30, Independents 28%)

CBS POLL: Kerry has clear positions on issues: Before: 29%, After: 60%

Aaron Brown: “Bill Schneider, the polls are out and this one wasn’t close in the poll.”

Bill Schneider: “Nope, hat trick for Kerry, three games, three goals.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

James Bennet: "Yet even (Bush's) smile was askew for about half the debate, marred by a glistening light dot at the right corner of his mouth. Viewers could be forgiven for losing track of his answers and imagining Laura Bush in the front row in frantic semaphore, wiping furiously at the corner of her own mouth." (New York Times, 10/14/04)

John Roberts: “I would probably have to give it to John Kerry. He seemed a little bit more poised…” (CBS, 10/13/04)

Mark Shields: “I think Kerry is far more factual.” (PBS, 10/13/14)

Tom Fielder: “I think tonight was tough territory for President Bush to even be playing in. And the odds were tough for him. Frankly I don’t, again speculation, but I don’t think that he was able to do anything that either hurt John Kerry badly enough to change the dynamic or that helped him enough to push John Kerry off of the game right now.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

Ron Reagan: “John Kerry may win the day after. George Bush made a mistake. Kerry quoted him accurately as it turns out in saying he’s not really worried about Osama bin Laden and Bush came back and said, well I don’t recall ever saying anything like that, we’ll you’ll see the clip of him saying exactly that tomorrow.” (MSNBC 10/13/04)

Andrea Mitchell: “John Kerry was strong on minimum wage.” (MSNBC 10/13/04)

Carlos Watson: “And when all is said and done I think Kerry will be proclaimed the winner, which I think will be significant because I think he will be viewed as having won all three debates.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

George Stephanopoulos: “I thought Senator Kerry was most effective on talking about jobs, minimum wage, healthcare and social security” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Pat Buchanan: “Kerry was, I thought, very much at the top of his game and I thought toward the end, when you saw Kerry, you saw more of the humanity of the man in some of those questions, which was very helpful to them; talking about the daughters and things.” (MSNBC, 10/13/14)

Joe Scarborough: “I have no doubt that every Ivy League, Yale debate coach in America is going to say that John Kerry won on points.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Chris Wallace: "I thought perhaps, because of the subject matter, that John Kerry did better in the second half on subjects like minimum wage which the president seemed somewhat uncomfortable on and really ducked, and started talking about his education plan. On assault weapons which he pretty much ducked." (Fox News, 10/13/04)

Chris Matthews: “Senator Kerry tonight was able to score on the class issue. He relentlessly went back on the fact that the tax cut passed in 2001 was directed at the top 3%.” (MSNBC 10/13/04)

Jeff Greenfield: “I think to the extent that the Republicans were looking for the president to lay the heavy lumber on John Kerry, that did not happen. And so if we’ve gone this last ten days with Kerry slowly moving up on Bush, I don’t see anything in this debate that will change that.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Judy Woodruff: “The Bush people are answering questions, Wolf, I’ll tell you, about what the president had to say about flu shots. It’s interesting, there seems to be a lot of discussion about whether that was the best answer to give.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Anthony Mason: “Dan, the uncommitted voters in our survey have given the edge in this debate, to this final debate, to John Kerry.” (CBS,10/13/04)

Peter Jennings: “President Bush said on John Kerry’s vote on Homeland Security Bill that he voted against the Homeland Security Bill. Right or wrong?”

Jake Tapper: “Wrong.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Tavis Smiley: “I think, Peter, that you have to shore up your bases…I think Mr. Kerry did that with people of color on the left.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Chris Jansing: “He painted the president as some one who led us to a misguided war, who has put Americans at risk because they don't have health insurance, who has lost more jobs than any president.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Dean Reynolds: “I think the candidate whose numbers have been moving in the right direction for the last 10 days has been Senator John Kerry, this debate did nothing to stop that, and I think from the Kerry point of view they’ll be happy about the results tonight.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Tom Brokaw: “I think that they were seeing on the war issue that John Kerry had tapped into something out there in America. That there were doubts even among the president’s supporters on the Republican side of the agenda and especially in a lot of those traditionally red states where they have a lot of people overseas and beginning to wonder if this was going well or not.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Bill Schneider: “This was a decisive win for John Kerry. It was just about as decisive as his win in the first debate, which everyone agreed was a blow out.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Richard Wolfe: “John Kerry, I thought, took this one by points. The president really needed to get a big victory tonight and he fell short of that. You know, he beat himself in the previous debates, but that really wasn’t good enough. And John Kerry has looked more presidential and more personable as these debates have gone on.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Perry Bacon: “Senator Kerry probably still won on points.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Sen. George Mitchell "When President Bush gets sick, he goes to a government doctor, he's treated at a government hospital, he's cared for a by a government nurse, so is every Republican Senator and every Republican Congressman. If government care is so bad for the rest of the American people, why is it that the President gets government care. I don't favor a government program but the sheer effrontery of receiving government care from government employees and saying its bad for the American people, it, it's offensive." (PBS, 10/13/04)

Chris Matthews: “I think the president had sort of an unhappy look but it was a very controlled and disciplined look. He was obviously told ‘they’re looking at you, don’t put on a show.’ But he didn’t look happy. He wasn’t used to this kind of brow-beating.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)

Bill Schneider: “The viewers of the debate, we interviewed them beforehand. They were evenly split between Democrats and Republicans. But they were not split on this debate. Their verdict? Kerry, by a decisive margin.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

Liz Marlantes: “Kerry was, in many ways, very consistent from debate, to debate, to debate.” (MSNBC, 10/14/04)

David Gergen: "The debates have changed the dynamics of the race. Most importantly, among women, and let me come back to that. Before the first debate, if you looked at the CNN-Gallup poll for example, a week before the first debate, the President was not only ahead substantially among men, but he was ahead 10 points ahead among women, 10 points ahead among women. Coming into this debate, John Kerry enjoyed an 8 point lead among women, there was an 18 point swing among women. That's what's tightened up this race and I thought what we heard tonight was John Kerry very directly appealing to women. It's the first time he's done that. I thought it was a very shrewd move on his part." (PBS, 10/13/04)

Mark Halperin: "The President has lost ground since the first poll, since the first debate rather. Nothing occurred in the second debate to reverse that process." (PBS, 10/13/04)

Bill Schneider: “But in the end, Kerry was perceived to be the winner by viewers of all three debates.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

George Stephanopoulos: “If you look at the sweep of the 3 debates he’s made this a dead heat and may even begin to have momentum going on his side.” (ABC, 10/13/04)

Mike Barnicle: “The amazing thing about John Kerry… he has achieved, I would think, what any candidate running against an incumbent president would want to achieve. He appears to be his physical equal on the stage. He appears to be presidential alongside the president.” (MSNBC 10/14/04)

John Harwood: “Aaron, I think this was a night when President Bush needed to change the dynamic. If you look at the situation we were in before these debates began, John Kerry was clearly behind the President. Now we're in a situation where slowly the polls are sliding toward John Kerry and it did not appear that anything happened to really shake that fundamental dynamic tonight in which John Kerry goes before millions and millions of Americans and presents a reassuring picture.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

Larry King: “We asked tonight who did the better job in this debate? Kerry 52%, Bush 39%.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Candy Crowley: “If what you’re looking for in a candidate is the best debater, I mean, that is definitely John Kerry. He has a quick command of the facts, he is very articulate, and I think the poll reflects that.” (CNN, 10/13/04)

Jon Meacham: “John Kerry took the populist war straight to the President.” (MSNBC, 10/13/04)
Brian Williams: “The problem here is the word nuisance. It was first used publicly in this context by a trusted Bush family friend, advisor and ally, Ret. General Brent Scowcroft, the National Security Advisor, as you know, in the first Bush White House.” (NBC, 10/13/04)

David Gergen: "CNN/Gallup's yesterday was saying by 15 percentage points Americans thought John Kerry won the second debate. So you've got him winning the first, you've got him with the perception that he won the second, whatever the immediate polls may have said, we can disagree on that. If the perception now takes hold that he won the third debate, if there are two or three polls..ok, if that takes hold, I think that gives John Kerry an enormous lift, to win three debates against the sitting President of the United States, I think gives him a big lift." (PBS, 10/13/04)

John Harwood: “Not sure (Bush) changed the race in a way that some of his strategists had hoped he would.” (CNN, 10/14/04)

Melinda Henneberger: “Overall in the three debates, you really have to say that Kerry came across as more commanding and that the president… did not always even seem in command of himself.” (MSNBC 10/14/04)

Melinda Henneberger: “Kerry undercut the idea of him(self) as inconsistent by presenting himself as very consistent.” (MSNBC 10/14/04)

Melinda Henneberger: “I think that tonight, Bush did himself some real harm…he just seems so perpetually surprised… it really undercut his credibility I thought.” (MSNBC 10/14/04)

“Mr. Kerry, a Democrat from Massachusetts, repeatedly portrayed himself as a fiscally responsible leader running against a spendthrift president who had cut taxes for the wealthy and tolerated a profound decline for the American middle class. All the while, Mr. Bush watched with impatience.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“...at times, the strain of correcting the angry, defensive impression of the first two debates wore through. On a question about health care costs, he stopped midway through an antimedia joke - ‘In all due respect, I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about’ - with the words, ‘oh, never mind.’ And then he laughed, a ‘heh heh heh’ that was not echoed in the room.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“Mr. Bush, however, tends to regard even policy choices as matters of faith. The numbers on his Social Security plan may never add up; last night, when asked about the $2 trillion hole in the proposal, he simply ignored the question. But to the president, all of his initiatives are success stories, and the devil take the details.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“Mr. Bush, faced with the challenge of a debate that was supposed to be focused entirely on domestic issues - after building his re-election campaign on national security - cited a litany of events outside his control as he sought to rebut the battery of economic statistics Mr. Kerry used against him.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“Mr. Kerry, though, seemed calm and in command as he talked evenly into the cameras on subjects that his aides have long viewed as his strong suits.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“Yet even (Bush’s) smile was askew for about half the debate, marred by a glistening light dot at the right corner of his mouth. Viewers could be forgiven for losing track of his answers and imagining Laura Bush in the front row in frantic semaphore, wiping furiously at the corner of her own mouth. Mr. Bush's face slipped into a frown late in the debate, as he struggled with a question on why the nation was so divided under his leadership. He began thumping one hand flat onto his lectern, knitting his brows as he segued to a defense of his management of the Iraq war.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“If Mr. Bush loses the election, he will have to blame, at least in part, his own debate performance.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“They were a rough passage for Mr. Bush, who saw his September lead over Mr. Kerry slip away as the Democratic nominee established himself as a plausible presidential alternative. In a crucible where voters measure the self-confidence, authority and steadiness of the candidates, Mr. Kerry delivered a consistent set of assertive, collected performances.” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“For Mr. Kerry, one of the best pieces of news was his strong performance on social issues.” (Editorial, New York Times, 10/14/04)

“The president refused to accept any responsibility for the lapse of the ban on assault weapons and completely dodged the question of whether he wanted to see the Supreme Court reverse Roe v. Wade, while Mr. Kerry gave strong responses to both questions. ‘I believe that the right of choice is a constitutional right,’ he said. ‘So I don't intend to see it undone.’” (New York Times, 10/14/04)

“Kerry, as unruffled as he has been throughout his personal confrontations with the president, did nothing to damage his prospects. Neutral observers -- including some who gave Bush a narrow edge -- predicted that Kerry would maintain the momentum that has brought him from an underdog's position at the beginning of September to rough parity with the incumbent.” (Washington Post, 10/14/04)

“An essentially dignified and thoughtful performance by John Kerry, contrasted with an oddly giggly turn by George W. Bush, combined to give the last debate of the presidential campaign to the challenger last night, but very narrowly.” (Washington Post, 10/14/04)

“Bush looked as smiley as Clarabell the Clown.” (Washington Post, 10/14/04)

“In a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll of 511 debate watchers, Kerry was seen as the winner by 52 percent to 39 percent. An ABC News poll had Bush and Kerry tied among a sample of debate watchers that tended to be more Republican.” (Associated Press, 10/14/04)

“President Bush overlooked a flip-flop of his own when he boasted Wednesday about launching the Homeland Security Department: He was against it before he was for it.” (Associated Press, 10/14/04)

“For Kerry, simply being on the same stage with Bush on three evenings was a plus because it took some of the sheen off the wartime aura the president has developed as commander-in-chief in the war on terror. But Kerry did better than that, raising questions about Bush's performance as leader of a troubled war in Iraq and establishing his own command of a wide swath of issues. He hit Bush particularly hard Wednesday night on the nation's growing health care problems, noting the increase in uninsured and fast-rising costs. ‘The president has turned his back,’ he said.” (Minneapolis Star Tribune, 10/14/04)

“The two-week period shaped by the debates appears to have drastically changed the nature of the race, leaving Mr. Kerry in a much stronger position for the endgame than appeared possible just after Labor Day. The Massachusetts Democrat ended the summer weakened by the Republican convention and attacks on his Vietnam War record. The challenger effectively used the nationally televised platform -- more so than he did during his nominating convention in July -- to make voters feel more comfortable with him. Mr. Bush's shaky performance in the first debate, by contrast, gave voters new doubts that he didn't seem able to dispel in the second round, despite what was widely seen as a better performance.” (Wall Street Journal, 10/14/04)

“A USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken after the debate found most viewers thought Kerry won, 52%-39%, giving him an unbeaten streak in the three debates. Kerry had an advantage on health care, the economy and education and expressed himself more clearly, the poll found.” (USA Today, 10/14/04)

“Again, Kerry showed himself to be an articulate, thoughtful master of detail who weighs issues carefully, ultimately arriving at cohesive policy positions.” (Editorial, USA Today, 10/14/04)

“Kerry, who critics say often meanders, spoke in commanding tones.” (USA Today, 10/14/04)

“By double-digit margins, those surveyed gave Kerry higher marks than Bush for expressing himself clearly, understanding issues and caring about the needs of people like them. Kerry was more believable, they said.” (USA Today, 10/14/04)

“John Kerry, the four-term senator from Massachusetts, won the third and final debate against President George W. Bush, according to polls by CBS and CNN/USA Today/Gallup. An ABC New survey said Bush and Kerry battled to a statistical tie.” (Bloomberg, 10/14/04)

“Kerry gained the most ground. The lone undecided voter before the debate concluded that if the election were held today, the Massachusetts senator would get his vote.” (Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“For a third, and final, presidential debate Wednesday night, Sen. John Kerry matched or bettered the president of the United States before a national television audience.” (Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“Kerry delivered a steadier and more confident performance than in last week's debate, the second face-off. From the outset, he sought to portray himself as a tribune of the middle class, promising to defend American workers and repeatedly charging that Bush's economic policies had favored the affluent” (Los Angeles Times, 10/14/04)

“President Bush's handlers tried to minimize the significance of his three debates with Sen. John F. Kerry, exaggerating Bush's lack of debating skills while insisting that he is the stronger leader. The trouble with this spin is that tens of millions of Americans watching the debates didn't feel they were watching a mere academic exercise. Stitched together, these three extraordinary exchanges amounted to a powerful indictment of the president's leadership. Even on foreign policy and national security, supposedly the president's strong suit, Kerry had Bush on the defensive in the first debate, attacking him for fighting an unnecessary war in Iraq while failing to capture Osama bin Laden and to prevent the acceleration of nuclear weapons programs in Iran and North Korea. That the president was on the defensive again Wednesday night, in a debate devoted to domestic policy, is less surprising. Again, Kerry made a compelling case that, for all his plain-talkin' West Texas bravado, Bush had failed to lead.” (Editorial, Los Angeles Times, 10/14/04)

“Bush's weakness as a leader was also manifest in his response to a question about why he failed to renew the ban on assault weapons, which he professed to support. He basically said he didn't have the votes on Capitol Hill, even though the ban would have passed had GOP leaders allowed a vote, something Bush should have ordered” (Editorial, Los Angeles Times, 10/14/04)

“It's no wonder the Bush team, hobbled by such a record, acts as if it can win only if voters treat this election as a referendum on Kerry's fitness for office. It should be clear by now that Kerry is not for some Stalinist government healthcare system, that he won't give Paris a veto over U.S. foreign policy and that he doesn't think terrorism is merely a nuisance. He was thoughtful and firm in all three debates, despite his enduring stiffness. The shrillness of the Bush camp's attacks on Kerry betrays an unbecoming desperation, and adds to the sense that the challenger came out the convincing winner.” (Editorial, Los Angeles Times, 10/14/04)

“It's hard to dispute that the debates have been kinder to Kerry than to Bush.” (Mike Littwin, Column, Rocky Mountain News, 10/14/04)

“Kerry looked very much like he did in the first two debates. Why not? He appears to have won the debate over debates.” (Mike Littwin, Column, Rocky Mountain News, 10/14/04)

“Democrat John F. Kerry came away from last night's final presidential debate having staked his claim for the White House with aggressiveness in the first encounter, likability in the second, and command of policy in the third, seeming to grow in credibility as a prospective president with each performance” (Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“Kerry seemed to score well with health care, both in explaining his plan to allow people to buy into the same health services as members of the House and Senate and in blaming Bush for increased numbers of uninsured people on his watch.” (Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“For Kerry, who entered the debates skittering on the edge of derision, a man seemingly lacking convictions, the force of his commitment probably resonated more than any particular issue.” (Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“The president is the hotter, more emotive candidate; the senator is the cooler, more cerebral one…television is broadly considered a medium more receptive to cool performers,” (Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“Part way through a response to one of John Kerry's statements about healthcare needs in this country, President Bush ran out of gas and simply stopped talking.” (Thomas Oliphant, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“This was, by contrast, John Kerry's third opportunity to increase his standing with the American people, and he once again took full advantage of it. Challengers who have a chance to talk unfiltered and unchallenged before a mass audience about the future, who can joke about their wealth as well as make a clear and specific commitment to raising the minimum wage by 40 percent, are on the way to being called incumbents.” (Thomas Oliphant, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“The polls have already indicated that Americans think Kerry would be better than Bush on handling the domestic issues that came up last night. Kerry lived up to that billing, displaying far more command of the issues than Bush. Kerry talked as a hunter against assault weapons. He talked about women's unequal pay and unemployment among African-American and Latino males. He was very clear in saying that America still has separate but unequal educations. Most important, Kerry was far more forthright than Bush about key issues in the culture wars. Kerry flat out said that he would appoint judges who would protect the Roe v. Wade decision affirming a woman's right to choose. Meanwhile, Bush hid behind his patented rhetoric of appointing judges who would strictly interpret the law. Everyone knows that means an intolerant court full of Antonin Scalias and Clarence Thomases.” (Derrick Z. Jackson, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“Voters know that the Massachusetts senator has a brain. They want to know he has heart, and he revealed a little more of it last night.” (Joan Vennochi, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“This wasn't the lopsided win of the first presidential debate, but John Kerry nevertheless scored a solid victory last night.” (Scot Lehigh, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“…it was Kerry, playing the prosecutor he once was, who kept the president on the defensive for much of the evening, using an impressive array of facts and figures to explain the effect the administration's policies have had on average Americans. That helped root Kerry solidly in middle-class values.” (Scot Lehigh, Op-Ed, Boston Globe, 10/14/04)

“Kerry scored big gains, as 42 percent of respondents said they had a more favorable opinion of him after the debate. Bush only increased with 27 percent of those polled.” (CNN.com, 10/14/04)

“On the economy and jobs, Kerry said Bush was the first president in 72 years to preside over a net loss of jobs.” (Steven Thomma and James Kuhnhenn, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“In a recent private meeting with supporters, President Bush reportedly predicted that, in this race, he would "keep my foot on John Kerry's throat." Last night, he was true to his word. But it didn't appear that Kerry was suffering much pain.” (Dick Polman, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“But Bush was fact-challenged on health care last night.” (Dick Polman, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“On the other hand, Bush is the incumbent whose record is on the line, and he may not have helped his cause last night when Schieffer invited him to talk about hiking the minimum wage, and he quickly changed the subject to improving the schools.” (Dick Polman, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“Bush stumbled on a question not raised before, about the U.S. flu vaccine shortage… Also, he blamed lawsuits for the shortage. In fact, according to the Institute of Medicine, a division of the National Academy of Sciences, the frequent vaccine shortages result from two factors: Vaccines aren't profitable, and drug companies keep merging.” (Matt Sterns, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“Bush said the economy is growing and more jobs are being created. But they are being created at a far slower rate than the 150,000 jobs a month that economists consider healthy for the economy.” (Matt Sterns, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“Bush said Kerry voted to raise taxes 98 times… the 98 number includes 16 votes on President Clinton's 1993 proposal to raise taxes and cut spending.” (Matt Sterns, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/14/04)

“But Kerry did better than that, raising questions about Bush's performance as leader of a troubled war in Iraq and establishing his own command of a wide swath of issues.” (David Westphal, Minneapolis Star Tribune, 10/14/04)

“Otis was the first person to ask a question at last Friday's presidential debate at Washington University. She asked Kerry if he had a response for people who thought he was ‘wishy-washy.’ Now, Otis said, she has pretty much dismissed that label for Kerry. ‘Kerry seems to be more straightforward,’ she said. Otis saw Bush as being on the defensive during much of Wednesday's debate. ‘If I had to go vote tonight, I'd be for Senator Kerry,’ she said.” (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 10/14/04)

“Kerry's answers ‘make me believe he is smarter, that things aren't as black and white as Bush would have you believe,’ Barrow said. ‘Kerry is a bright guy. I trust him.’” (St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 10/14/04)

“Network news polls named Kerry the winner of Wednesday night's exchange, as they had in the first two faceoffs.” (John Aloysius Farrell, Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“Network news polls named Kerry the winner of Wednesday night's exchange, as they had in the first two faceoffs. A CNN sample had Kerry winning 52 percent to 39 percent, while CBS had the Democrat winning 39-25 and ABC had a tighter margin, with Kerry the victor 42-41… Kerry ‘won’ the debates by calling upon skills learned long ago when, as a prosecutor striving to persuade judges and juries in Middlesex County, Mass., he had to take complex facts and weave them into digestible arguments.” (John Aloysius Farrell, Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“But over the course of the three debates, Kerry better exploited his opportunity to show undecided voters that he has presidential stature and a set of firm convictions.” (John Aloysius Farrell, Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“’Most of the tax cuts went to low- and middle-income Americans,’ Bush said, in an assertion vigorously and repeatedly challenged by Kerry. The tax cuts, though, are heavily weighted toward the wealthy Americans who pay the greatest share of federal taxes to begin with. That has meant that two-thirds of the benefits of the Bush tax cuts have gone to the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans, according to an analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice, an independent Washington think tank that bases its calculations on Treasury Department data.” (Bob Deans, Denver Post, 10/14/04)

“Bush accused Kerry of wanting ‘government-run health care’ that would lead to poor quality and rationing. According to factcheck.org, 97 percent of Americans would keep the private insurance they now have.” (Kansas City Star, 10/14/04)


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